Comments on: ThinkGenealogy Innovator Award #4 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/ genealogy, software, ideas, and innovation Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:19:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: RootsMagic Blog » Year in Review http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 RootsMagic Blog » Year in Review Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:58:53 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1438 [...] ThinkGenealogy Innovator Award July 2009 [...] [...] ThinkGenealogy Innovator Award July 2009 [...]

]]> By: RootsMagic 4 Citation Quality Gotcha #1 | ThinkGenealogy http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1188 RootsMagic 4 Citation Quality Gotcha #1 | ThinkGenealogy Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:39:56 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1188 [...] that they (and others) are doing is truly innovative. Just the other day, I awarded RootsMagic 4 an Innovator award for the implementation of research analysis around their citation quality [...] [...] that they (and others) are doing is truly innovative. Just the other day, I awarded RootsMagic 4 an Innovator award for the implementation of research analysis around their citation quality [...]

]]> By: GeneJ http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1186 GeneJ Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:35:08 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1186 Hi Mark: RootsMagic4 is a feature rich program. Bruce's enthusiasm about the project and his communications with users throughout the development of 4 was impressive. I can't imagine any RootsMagic user felt left out of the process. On the other hand, most of the time when I am fortunate enough to try a new software release, I find the developers have included something exciting and innovative—worthy of the kind of award you bestow. Indeed, if I don't find those new features, it's probably true that I didn't understand the software well enough to evaluate the new release. I'd like to see an Emeril approach to genealogical software awards and evaluations--let's "kick it up" a notch. As far as sources are concerned, if my zillions of sources have been well developed in one genealogical software program, shouldn't there be some way of importing all to another genealogical software program? Shouldn’t it also be much easier, within a given program, to modify or update our sources and citations I tested a variety of genealogical software programs over the past year. While I generally didn’t find the source templates and “categorization” approaches so very beneficial, I was mostly able to create the sources and citations I wanted. Now I'd like to see powerful “must have” third party software developed to support the management of my sources _and_ the export-import process. I dream of the day when I can easily call up different compilations of sources and citations AND edit same within that same compilation. Ditto, that to avail myself of the features of one developer’s program, I don’t have to re-enter my 5000 sources and 40000 citations. Likewise, if I do have to re-organize that information, someone has considered the techniques and features that would make that re-organization not only possible but feasible . --GJ Hi Mark:
RootsMagic4 is a feature rich program. Bruce’s enthusiasm about the project and his communications with users throughout the development of 4 was impressive. I can’t imagine any RootsMagic user felt left out of the process. On the other hand, most of the time when I am fortunate enough to try a new software release, I find the developers have included something exciting and innovative—worthy of the kind of award you bestow. Indeed, if I don’t find those new features, it’s probably true that I didn’t understand the software well enough to evaluate the new release.
I’d like to see an Emeril approach to genealogical software awards and evaluations–let’s “kick it up” a notch. As far as sources are concerned, if my zillions of sources have been well developed in one genealogical software program, shouldn’t there be some way of importing all to another genealogical software program? Shouldn’t it also be much easier, within a given program, to modify or update our sources and citations
I tested a variety of genealogical software programs over the past year. While I generally didn’t find the source templates and “categorization” approaches so very beneficial, I was mostly able to create the sources and citations I wanted. Now I’d like to see powerful “must have” third party software developed to support the management of my sources _and_ the export-import process.
I dream of the day when I can easily call up different compilations of sources and citations AND edit same within that same compilation. Ditto, that to avail myself of the features of one developer’s program, I don’t have to re-enter my 5000 sources and 40000 citations. Likewise, if I do have to re-organize that information, someone has considered the techniques and features that would make that re-organization not only possible but feasible . –GJ

]]> By: Mark Tucker http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1185 Mark Tucker Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:05:07 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1185 Jonathan, I tried to e-mail you in private, but your e-mail address is not valid. Your recent comment seemed like you thought I was awarding RootsMagic the innovator award for source templates following Elizabeth Shown Mills’ Evidence Explained when in fact Legacy 7 and Family Tree Maker 2009 had that "innovation" first. If you look at the winner of the 2nd Innovator award, you will see that I awarded it to Legacy 7 since they released the feature in June 2008. Family Tree Maker 2009 was released in August 2008 but didn’t include EE templates until the update in February 2009. RootsMagic 4 was released in March 2009. I awarded RootsMagic 4 an innovator award for the citation quality feature that allows sources to be classified as original or derivative, information to be classified as primary or secondary, and evidence to be classified as direct, indirect, or negative. Here is a link to all innovator award winners: http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/innovator-awards/ I hope that clarifies things. Thank you for your comments. Mark Jonathan,

I tried to e-mail you in private, but your e-mail address is not valid.

Your recent comment seemed like you thought I was awarding RootsMagic the innovator award for source templates following Elizabeth Shown Mills’ Evidence Explained when in fact Legacy 7 and Family Tree Maker 2009 had that “innovation” first. If you look at the winner of the 2nd Innovator award, you will see that I awarded it to Legacy 7 since they released the feature in June 2008. Family Tree Maker 2009 was released in August 2008 but didn’t include EE templates until the update in February 2009. RootsMagic 4 was released in March 2009.

I awarded RootsMagic 4 an innovator award for the citation quality feature that allows sources to be classified as original or derivative, information to be classified as primary or secondary, and evidence to be classified as direct, indirect, or negative.

Here is a link to all innovator award winners:

http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/innovator-awards/

I hope that clarifies things. Thank you for your comments.

Mark

]]> By: Jonathan Riser http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1184 Jonathan Riser Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:59:32 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1184 Hmmm....kind of easy to be an innovator of a feature when you're not the one to get it done first - see FTM 2009 and Legacy 7 - both "innovated" Elizabeth Mills' templates first. Hmmm….kind of easy to be an innovator of a feature when you’re not the one to get it done first – see FTM 2009 and Legacy 7 – both “innovated” Elizabeth Mills’ templates first.

]]> By: Bruce Buzbee http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1182 Bruce Buzbee Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:12:24 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1182 Yes, they are for each citation. Yes, they are for each citation.

]]> By: Carole Riley http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/2009/07/04/thinkgenealogy-innovator-award-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1181 Carole Riley Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:57:13 +0000 http://www.thinkgenealogy.com/?p=732#comment-1181 Thanks for showing us what the other software publishers are doing, Mark. I use TMG and my expectations for the improvements that will be introduced into the long-awaited TMG V8 have now been raised. I assume that these source ratings are for each citation, and not just for the source as a whole? Thanks for showing us what the other software publishers are doing, Mark.

I use TMG and my expectations for the improvements that will be introduced into the long-awaited TMG V8 have now been raised.

I assume that these source ratings are for each citation, and not just for the source as a whole?

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